Donald Trump’s testimony in a defamation lawsuit filed through a woman who claims to have raped her has been revealed, revealing how the former president insulted his accuser.
Trump was questioned under oath in October 2022 as part of the lawsuit filed through E. Jean Carroll, a former Elle columnist who accused the former president of sexually assaulting her in a Bergdorf Goodman locker room in New York City in the mid-1990s.
Carroll is now suing Trump over comments he made while denying the allegations, adding that he stated in interviews, and later backed up his Truth Social account, that she is “not my type. “
Carroll is also suing the former president for assault after New York’s Adult Survivors Act went into effect on Nov. 24, 2022, giving alleged adult victims of sexual assault one year to sue even though the statute of limitations has expired.
Trump’s statement in October came after a New York ruling ruled out Trump’s “absurd” attempt to have Carroll’s two lawsuits against him dismissed.
Unsealed testimony shows Trump continually insulted Carroll, adding that he called her a “crazy job,” a “liar” and a “mentally ill,” and also warned that she enjoyed being sexually assaulted while misinterpreting comments she made in a 2019 interview with Anderson. CNN’s Cooper.
Trump also defends his “he’s not my type” comments when questioned by Carroll’s lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, and denies allegations that the rape took place.
[This transcript has been edited for clarity]
Q: You say you absolutely made up a story that I met you at the doors of this crowded New York branch and I fainted within minutes. See that?
“Active: Yes
“Q: What does ‘she fainted’ mean?
“Trump: It would be a word, maybe accurate or not, that has to do with him talking and talking to him, doing an act that she said happened, that didn’t happen. And it’s a nicer word than the word that starts with an F, and it’s a word I used because I think it wouldn’t hurt to use the other word.
“Q: OK. I’m curious when I read this. So I looked up the word “fainting” in the dictionary, and under the dictionary it means “fainting with excessive emotion. “Isn’t that what you meant here?
Trump: Well, that’s some of what he said I did to him. He fainted from wonderful emotion. He indicated that he liked it. It is ok? He enjoyed it until the advertising break. She said it was very sexy to be raped. “Didn’t she say that?
“Q: So, sir, just to confirm: this is your testimony that E. Did Jean Carroll say she enjoyed being sexually assaulted through you?
Trump: Well, from your interview with Anderson Cooper, I think that’s what happened. And we can sum that up. You’ll have to show it. I’m sure to show it. But she was interviewed through Anderson Cooper, and I think she said rape was sexy, which it isn’t, by the way. But I think he said rape was sexy, and it was. She was another user after. . . when he said, “Let’s take a break right now. Let’s take a break right now,” he didn’t like what she was saying. He was very disappointed by what he said—and then he came back here, and she was a very different woman at the time, so to speak.
Q: So, again, just to clarify the testimony, because you have a tendency to give long answers. Is it your testimony, sir, that in Anderson Cooper, she – “she” being E. Jean Carroll – indicated in Anderson Cooper that she liked him?
“Trump: If you see the first component of your interview, the first component of your interview, before Anderson, panicking because she doesn’t say what’s right for him and for CNN, it’s very hostile. In a panic, he says let’s take a break. I think he said it twice. He sought her out to prevent. He sought her out to avoid speaking. If you’re watching this interview, yes. She said many things in this interview, things that make her a liar in general.
Q: So what I’m asking you is: Did she say in that interview that she enjoyed being sexually assaulted through you?
Trump: Well, she said anything along the lines. I mean, you have to take a look at the interview yourself. I think he said rape was sexy, so Anderson Cooper dies. Pause immediately. I think it would be better Look at the interview. I’m sure you did, but you better watch the interview.
Q: In the interview, when Ms. Carroll said that rape is sexy, it is rarely very true that she said it was a view shared by many other people.
Trump: Oh, I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know. All I know is that I think she said rape is sexy or something, but I have to watch the interview. It’s been a while. “
Q: And just to clarify, you said a few minutes before that you used the word ‘fainted’ as a synonym for, you said the word F, for sex?
“Trump: Yes. That’s because that’s what she said.
“Q: What do you mean? She used the word “fainted. “
She said I did something to her that never happened. There’s nothing. I don’t know anything about this crazy work. “
“Q: Okay. Then he goes on to say in the affirmation, “And even if I don’t intend to say it, I will. “Why didn’t he intend to say it?
Trump: Because it’s not politically correct to say she’s not my type. Because it’s not politically correct to say it, and I know it, but I’ll say it anyway. She accuses me of rape, a woman I have no idea who she is. It came here out of nowhere. She accuses me of rape, of raping her, the worst thing you can do, the worst accusation. And you know that’s not true as well. You are a disgrace. But she accuses me and you of rape, and that never happened. And I’ll tell you I made that statement, and I said, even though it’s politically correct, she’s not my type. And that’s one hundred percent true. She’s not my type.
“Q: And when you say ‘he’s not my type’. . . The point of saying she’s not my type is to convince other people that you didn’t rape her because she wasn’t enough, right?
“Trump: When I say she’s not my type, I mean she’s never a woman I’m ever attracted to. There is no explanation as to why I am attracted to it. It’s just that it doesn’t even mean to be an insult. “. There is something I would never be attracted to her. Now, some other people might be attracted to her. I would never be attracted to her. I say it’s politically incorrect to say that, basically, she’s not my most sensible type of everything. “
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