Friday’s Supreme Court ruling that struck down Roe v. Wade and removed the premise that there is a constitutional right to abortion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. The case originated in Mississippi and has been the cornerstone of the pro-life struggle. the biggest victory of the cause in the last 50 years.
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves, a Republican, was instrumental in building the culture of life in his state to get to this point and hopes Friday’s victory will be the first in a long series.
“We need to convince the rest of the country that each and every life has value, each and every life has value, and there are other people in this state, and there are other people in this country, who care and love everybody. “every single mother,” Reeves says.
“I think we’ve made progress,” he added. And the explanation for this is that in my center, if we speak with compassion, we have the ability to win the centers and minds of other people across the country. “this problem. “
Reeves joins the exhibit to talk about how Dobbs was handed over to the Superior Court and what long-term life holds in America.
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Douglas Blair: My guest is mississippi Governor Tate Reeves. Governor, welcome to the show.
Governor Tate Reeves: Thank you, Doug. Great to be sure.
Blair: Of course it was his state that produced Dobbs’ lawsuit that ultimately annulled Roe v. Wade. Wade, and showed that there is no constitutional right to abortion. Since her condition was so vital in this process, what are the next steps in particular for Mississippi on how to care for abortion in the future?
Reeves: Well, I’m so glad Mississippi led the conclusion of Roe v. Wade. This is a self-evident war that has been going on for about 50 years since the court wrongly came to the conclusion they reached in Roe. very excited.
I just need to emphasize that it is the convictions of our other people that have given elected officials the ability to lead this fight. of us on the conservative motion and all of us who are believers to come together and create a culture of life in our state and throughout America. And really, this is the next phase of the pro-life motion that is creating this culture of life.
Blair: And what is Mississippi doing in particular to tame this culture of life across the country?
Reeves: First of all, we applied to specifically improve our children’s coverage facilities company. We’ve had problems in the past, but since I’ve been governor, we’ve invested huge amounts of money in this specific company so that young people who need help locating foster care, who want help locating an adoption, who are there to help them find a house and a circle of relativesArray
And we also make sure to work to provide the mandatory resources for our mothers in the long run. We have 37 pregnancy resource centers located in each and every region of our state.
We passed what will be the first piece of legislation to provide $3. 5 million to those pregnancy resource centers. So that those moms-to-be, some of whom possibly didn’t expect to be pregnant, have someone who can stand by their side and walk them through the procedure and help them get the resources they need and give them general help and show them that there are other people here in Mississippi who don’t just love this mother, but also this unborn child. And let’s make sure they’re there with them.
Blair: It turns out that Mississippi has some kind of dual technique where there’s a duty of the state to women who might go through an unforeseen pregnancy, but also on the ground, private citizens go to pregnant women through that. Is that correct?
Reeves: That’s right. Surely that’s right, because what we do know is that while the state or the government, when guided by other people like me, must be compassionate, we also know that the government is not very smart to offer many things and that it is the religious network that is best placed to stand up and provide the necessary support.
So, we’ve presented a challenge here in Mississippi, and we’re challenging across America, that churches and others in the devoted network are stepping in and not only helping with pregnancy resource centers, but also helping Americans in each and every network across our state. , because we know that some are going to be placed in delicate situations.
And we don’t just need to pass a law because it’s never been about passing a law. There was never any hesitation in winning a case. It’s about creating that culture of life and providing opportunities for mothers and babies.
Blair: Now, since you have this culture of life that you’re looking to cultivate, let’s take a look and see what [are] some of the laws in the books that are going to be put in place now that Roe has been overthrown.
Some states have so-called cause legislation, where as soon as Roe is cancelled, the legislation goes into effect and prohibits abortion. What does Mississippi have lately as legislation? Is it Dobbs’ decision? Is the Dobbs trial what you write as law on the books? Or what do you plan to do now?
Reeves: So, obviously, the Dobbs case was quite a lot, and it was strategic, but the Dobbs case was really a 15-week ban that was passed by the Mississippi legislature in 2018. We were then processed without delay.
In 2008, a law of cause was passed. It’s interesting, and it shows how far the Democrats have come in just 15 years, yet we had a Democratic speaker of the House and a Democratic president of public aptitude who passed the cause bill in Mississippi. And the causa law prohibits all abortions unless it is rape and the life of the mother.
And so yesterday, our Attorney General, as required by law, indicated that this trigger law would go into effect and the plaintiff in the Dobbs case sued us on state grounds.
And so, while we anticipate that the cause law went into effect 10 days after yesterday, when it was qualified through the GA, it is now the subject of a state dispute. dispute.
But once this litigation is us, and once the Mississippi Supreme Court upholds that the Constitution does not guarantee the right to abortion, as recently declared by the U. S. Supreme Court, then the causation law will go into effect.
Blair: You discussed this exception where a woman can have an abortion if the pregnancy is harmful to her life or if it is the result of rape. Some laws throughout the country provide for such exceptions. Is that going to stay in Mississippi law in the near future, do you think, or is it going to eliminate those exceptions?
Reeves: Well, I think those discussions are ongoing with legislative leaders, but in the short term it will remain in place. To be sure, when communicating about the mother’s life, it is, in my non-public opinion, a medical resolution. that has to be done through a doctor because you have two lives at stake.
And that is the basis of the Dobbs case and the arguments that we have made is that there is definitely a baby living in that womb. And when it comes to the effect that there is a choice to be made because of the life of the mother and the life of the baby, I don’t think anyone other than the doctor has the expertise to make that specific decision.
Blair: One of the things we hope to see in the future, as those kinds of conversations [take place] and that legislation is passed, is that pro-abortion states like California will try to funnel so-called abortion drugs to professionals. . -live states like Mississippi. What are your plans to deal with such situations?
Reeves: Yes, lately we’re in the legislation on our books to deal with those kinds of abortions, because obviously that wouldn’t be allowed under our law, and the kinds of things we can do to make sure that we enforce all of our state’s legislation about it and everything that on-call abortion does.
It was surely unexpected and shocking to me. And maybe that shouldn’t be the case, yet those pro-abortion states are not only interested, it seems, in providing services to people, but it’s almost as if they’re advocating for more abortions. They advocate and try to simplify the abortion of unborn children for more and more people. And it is, it’s a sad place to see.
Blair: Now anything to that, a difference in culture between a state like California or New York and Mississippi. How successful do you think you’ve had in building a culture of life across the country?
I need to refer to everything he said in this interview and that he already said in a press release, where he said, “Despite what some would possibly claim, Mississippi’s purpose has never been just to win a lawsuit. It’s about creating a culture of life across the country. How successful do you think you are?
Reeves: Well, I think we’ve made progress and I think my friends ask me why I’m willing to pass some of those TV screens and do some of those very combative interviews. And the explanation for this is that I believe in my center that if we speak with compassion, we have the ability to win over the centers and minds of other people across the country on this issue.
Surely that’s because if you tell Americans and ask them, there is an overwhelming majority of Americans who deserve moderate restrictions on abortion.
And I know that even in states like California and New York, which have some of the most open abortion laws in our country, yet frankly, in California and New York, their abortion legislation looks more like North Korea and Communist China than the Western World.
So, I think even in states like California and New York, there’s a giant percentage of their population that believes they have moderate restrictions on abortions. So the way they describe moderation may not be exactly how I do it as a pro-life. Mississippi, but still, we can save lives in California and New York if we tell other people in those states what a moderate restriction would be.
That even the 15-week ban that Mississippi passed, if we had controlled to put this law on the books and cancel Roe v. Wade. Wade, Mississippi, as the most conservative state in the country, would have had even fewer restrictions on abortion than 39 of Europe’s 42 countries.
And so the california and New York legislation is seriously disconnected from the Western world and this is the verbal exchange that wants to take place in those states and we’re going to try to push that verbal exchange.
Blair: In terms of getting this conversation done, does it mean more action at the federal level?Obviously, Dobbs is one of the things that went to the Supreme Court and now has national ramifications. Are you making plans to do something like this again?
Reeves: Well, what I would tell you is that I don’t know if we want to act at the federal level. I think we want to have political activism in each and every component of our country. The next phase of the pro-life movement is to continue to convey to other Americans our perspectives and beliefs, and the fact that those laws in those other states, like California, New York, are so replaced in touch with the rest of the world.
Blair: Now, how can Mississippi and other pro-life states serve as role models for those states?What can they do now to show that a culture of life is bigger than a culture that supports abortion?
Reeves: Well, I’m thinking about precisely what we talked about before, and that’s the implementation of public policies that show that we’re serious about offering resources to mothers who are in a pregnancy that they might not want.
The other thing we can do is make it easier to adopt in our state. And that’s one of the policies that we’re putting in place, it’s to make it easier to adopt one of those other young people, because we know there are other people in the devoted community, we know there are other people in Mississippi who would possibly be suffering to get pregnant and you need to adopt a child.
We want to do a lot of adoptions in our state and across the country. And we look at things in terms of helping with the adoption charge, because as you know, it can be incredibly expensive.
And we’re looking for tactics to speed up the procedure because for many parents who are interested in adoption, they need to adopt a child before the age of 14 or 15. So what can we do to facilitate the adoption of this 1, 2 and 3 years before entering, for example, the public formula or the foster care formula?
And so we will also have to be in a position to inspire and inspire parents to intervene and welcome young people who are placed in the state system. And we will also have to continue with the educational results for all our young people, adding those who end up in the state system.
Blair: As a final question, as we begin to conclude here, Governor, I’m curious, there are 49 other states in the union. They have incredibly disparate perspectives on the direction to go after that on abortion and all those other issues. What does Mississippi say? What do they do to constitute for the rest of the country?
Reeves: We need to convince the rest of the country that each and every life has value, each and every life has value, and that there are other people in this state and there are other people in this country who care and love each other. each mother, regardless of the mistakes or decisions they have made in the past; that there are other people here in this state and across the country who love each and every baby, whether they are in this womb or born.
And that is why we want to constitute a benevolent other who seeks to situate our policies in such a way that it creates this culture of life that allows us to make sure that we and those who want it most, understanding that it is very rare that the government is the most productive way to supply this or that resource, but to work with our partners in the personal sector, to work with our religion, to work in a network to create this culture of life.
Blair: Merveilleux. Well, it was the governor of Mississippi, Tate Reeves. Thank you very much for your time, Governor. I thank you for coming.
Reeves: Thank you for having me as always, Doug. Enjoy.
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