First presidential debate: fact-checking through Trump and Biden on ballots by mail, economy, COVID and more

In their first presidential debate, President Trump and Joe Biden made a series of accusations that raised questions, CBS News’ data verification team proved the fact about some of them. Here’s what we found.

TRUMP STATEMENT: “Take a look at West Virginia: Postmen who sell ballots. They are sold. They are thrown into rivers. It is a terrible thing for our country. “

CLAIM: Trump says in West Virginia “sell ballots”

FACT RESIFICATION: False

DETAILS: A West Virginia postman pleaded guilty to the attempted voter fraud and “mail damage” after admitting that he had replaced the mail-order application bureaucracy for 8-voter mail ballots in April 2020, according to a Department of Justice release.

The West Virginia Secretary of State’s Office investigated and discovered that party associations in the bureaucracy of five voting requests had been replaced from “Democrat” to “Republican. “The other three bureaucracies of voting requests were amended, the party association has not been replaced. No The promotion fees for the ballot boxes opposed the postman.

BY: Sara Cook

TRUMP STATEMENT: “They lose 30 and 40 percent. It’s a fraud. It’s a fraud and it’s a disgrace. “

CLAIM: Trump says “they” (an unknown entity) “lose 30 percent” of ballots.

FACT RESIFICATION: False

DETAILS: Mr. Trump says that “they” – an unknown entity that is most likely the U. S. Postal Service or, in all likelihood, polling stations – wasting “30 and 40%” of ballots by mail. There does not appear to be any source or basis for this statement.

The president referred to the figure “30 and 40%” in a recent interview with Fox News, however, in the past he has used other percentages when talking about lost votes, he said in August that “20%” of the votes are lost. . by mail, and then in that same speech he said it was “20 to 30%. “

Possibly he was referring to recent electoral disorders in Paterson, NJ, where election officials ended up rejecting 19% of the ballots sent, however, it is the percentage of ballots deemed invalid, not the percentage lost by mail.

Several states have already reported, even recently, unrest with incomplete ballots or yet there seems to be no evidence that a state has ever reported that between 30 and 40% of ballots were “lost. “

BY: Kristin Brown

TRUMP STATEMENT: “If you look at New York, where it’s increasing as if no one has noticed anything, the numbers rise to 100, 150, 200% of crime. “

CLAIM: Trump says crime has increased by 100 to 200% in New York.

FACT REVIEW: MISLEADING

DETAILS: The New York Police Department published crime statistics in the city on September 3, 2020 for august.

BY: Sara Cook

TRUMP STATEMENT: “They (the Obama administration) have experienced the slowest recovery, the economic recovery, since 1929. It is the slowest recovery. They also recovered everything that went down.

CLAIM: Trump President Obama and Biden presided over the slowest economic recovery since 1929.

FACT RESIFICATION: False

THE DETAILS: While economists have pointed out that the economy has been unusually slow to get back on track after the 2008-2009 slowdown, Trump is when he says it was the slowest recovery since the Great Depression of 1929.

Indeed, the 2001 recession caused by the dotcom boom that erupted around March 2001 was slower than the 2008-09 recovery under M. Obama.

Six years after the end of the 2001 recession, the number of jobs increased by just 6%, compared to 8% six years after the economic collapse of the Great Recession. The recovery that began under Obama’s presidency also longer than the 2001 recovery. The U. S. economy added 2. 3 million jobs in the last year of the Obama administration.

Trump said corporate tax cuts approved by the end of 2017 had created a massive build-up of tasks. In fact, 2. 3 million tasks were created in the year after the tax cuts, almost the same as in the last year of trump’s presidency. . Obama, and 200,000 more than the year before tax cuts. By the time tax cuts passed through Republicans and signed through Trump, the expansion of the task was reduced to 180,000.

PAR: Stephen Gandel

BIDEN-TRUMP EXCHANGE:

IDBEN: “You know, your own former spokesman said, you know, that riots, chaos and violence are his cause. That’s what it’s all about.

TRUMP: “I don’t know who said that. “

IDBEN: “Yes”.

TRUMP: “Who?”

IDBEN: “Kellyanne Conway”

TRUMP: “I don’t think she said that. “

FACT VERIFICATION: True

DETAILS: In protecting Trump, Conway cited a ballot reporting that others were seeking more law enforcement in their cities, especially African-American and Hispanic citizens. She made those comments in an interview on “Fox

He began by quoting an anonymous businesswoman from Wisconsin. “I’m thinking of a very fast little businesswoman, ” said Conway. “She prepared her tent once back for the post-COVID closure lift, and then had to start over. after being vandalized and looted. And I just can’t stand it. I also saw that today there’s a quote from a Wisconsin restauratey who said, “Are you protesters looking for Donald Trump to be re-elected?”

“He knows, period, and I guess Mayor Pete knows, period, that the more chaos, anarchy, vandalism and violence prevail, the greater the very transparent selection of who is in public protection and public order. “

BY: Adam Aigner-Treworgy

TRUMP STATEMENT: “The mayor of Moscow, his wife, gave his son $3 million and a half. “

CLAIM: Hunter Biden won Elena Baturina’s monetary reimbursement for her consulting work.

FACT VERIFICATION: misleading, without evidence

THE DETAILS: President Trump was referring to a recent debatable Republican majority report on the Senate Finance and Homeland Security Committees.

The report, which follows a one-year investigation through Republican Senators Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, and Ron Johnson, chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs, alleges that “Hunter Biden won a $3. 5 million bank from Elena Baturina, wife of the former Moscow mayor. “

The GOP report states that the cash was transferred through an “advisory agreement” between Baturina and Rosemont Seneca Thornton, an investment corporation that he said was co-founded through Hunter Biden. A Hunter Biden lawyer has continually denied that his consumer co-founded the corporate and therefore did not get the $3. 5 million.

“Hunter Biden had no interest and was not a co-founder of Rosemont Seneca Thornton, so the claim that he earned $3. 5 million is false,” Hunter Biden’s lawyer George Mesires told PolitiFact.

Grassley and Johnson said the report was aimed only at Obama’s management and consulting firm Blue Star Strategies, but that it did not publicly include any documents that could be just their claim about the former vice president’s son. According to PolitiFact, the Democratic Senate staff who saw the documents. referenced through Republicans said they did not link Biden to a company account.

Politifact noted that Hunter Biden co-founded a company called Rosemont Seneca in 2009, however, it is not imaginable to know whether Rosemont Seneca Thornton arrives at Hunter Biden without access to the estate documents of the law, which is private. “The relationship with Thornton – even if he uses the so-called Rosemont Seneca – can exist without other Rosemont Seneca spouses fighting. A business spouse may have created this entity on their own,” Politifact said.

The most sensitive Democrats on either committee rejected the Grassley and Johnson investigation, calling it a “State Department-facilitated attempt at political success” that spreads Russian disinformation.

BY: Audrey McNamara

TRUMP STATEMENT: “A VA correction – which was a disaster under [Obama] – 308,000 more people died because they did not have adequate fitness care. It’s a mess. And now we have received an approval rate of 91% from the VA, our veterinarians. We take care of our vets. “

CLAIM: 308,000 veterans died because they “had adequate physical care” in the VA.

FACT REVIEW: MISLEADING

The president’s number is disabled and his touch data is incorrect. It turns out it refers to a 2015 report that found that some 307,000 files were locked in VA’s fitness care system. They were deceased veterans. Some presented this as evidence that these veterans may also have simply died while waiting for VA’s fitness care, however, the particular report states that knowledge was so poor that it cannot be determined how many of those records referred to veterans “who requested fitness care or when they might have applied. “

The report analyzed records dating back several years and found that more than 250,000 of the veterans later known as dead had died before 2010.

DETAILS: Here is the VA Inspector General and two citations applicable to this claim. “ES” means the Veterans Health Administration (VHA) registration system:

“As of September 2014, more than 307,000 ES pending records, or about 35% of all pending records, referred to people pronounced dead through the Social Security Administration,” the report says, adding that due to “data limitations,” “we haven’t been able to know exactly how many pending ES files constitute the veterans that have been implemented for physical care benefits.

The registration program “did not define, collect and manage registration data well,” and VHA “did not have good enough procedures to identify the date of death and put into effect mandatory updates on the person’s prestige. “

Later, the report is more accurate. ” [Q] The end-of-SE records come with annotations for the deceased,” he said. As of September 30, 2014, more than 307,000 outstanding US registrations were of deceased persons. through the Social Security Administration (SSA). However, due to gaps in known knowledge in Claim 1, we cannot exactly number of PENDING ES records. Veterans who have been implemented for physical care benefits or when they have implemented it. “

Citing a record of a veteran who died in 1993, the report states when others whose records were blocked were recorded as deceased in the Social Security Administration database:

It seems that several deaths occurred during the Obama administration, perhaps up to 50,000 or more, but this report makes it clear that the vast majority occurred before Obama took office.

In Trump’s statement of a “91% approval score for the VA,” a 2019 poll published through U. S. foreign war veteransBut it’s not the first time He found that 90% of veterans would care about VA from their fellow veterans. :

“The survey, which interviewed veterans about their VA physical care since the implementation of the MISSION Act, found that more than 80% were satisfied with their VA fitness care. Nearly 75% of the veterans surveyed reported innovations in their local VA, and more than 90% would offer VA care to their veteran colleagues. “

But research published under Obama’s direction in 2013 revealed equally high scores over the past decade: “One of the key findings for 2013 is the maximum degree of LEALTAD to VA among veterans, with a favorable score of 93%. remained on top (above 90, consistent with the penny) for the past decade. “

BY: Adam Aigner-Treworgy

IDBEN STATEMENT: “From what [Trump] did, even before COVID, production went to a vacuum.

CLAIM: Biden says that under President Trump, even before the coronavirus pandemic, the suffering of production “has sunk into a hole.

FACT REVIEW: MISLEADING

From the start of Trump’s management in January 2017 to February 2020, before he hit the coronavirus pandemic, the United States added about 443,000 production jobs, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

DETAILS: As Politifact noted in July 2020, “employment in manufacturing increased from mid-2017 to early 2019, but at about the same pace as during the top of Obama’s term. “

From February 2020 to August 2020, approximately 720,000 production jobs were lost.

Politifact also noted in July 2020 that through some other measure, gross production consistent with the quarter, there was an increase in production in the first year and a half of Trump’s presidency. Obama’s administration. And hourly gains for production personnel also continued to rise under President Trump “just as they did under Obama. “

PAR: Ellis Kim

IDBEN CLAIM: “There are a hundred million other people who have pre-existing situations, and will also be eliminated, those pre-existing situations, those insurance companies will love it. It is not appropriate to do so before this election. “

FACT RESIFICATION: Rather true

DETAILS: In 2017, the Department of Health and Human Services published a study that found that between 23% and 51% of non-elderly Americans (under the age of 65), or 61 million to 133 million others, have pre-existing fitness problems. .

PAR: Sara Cook

TRUMP STATEMENT: “You (in Biden) don’t think we’ve closed our country because you think it was too much, it was terrible.

CLAIM: Trump says he banned people from entering China at the start of the pandemic, and that Biden called the ban “xenophobic” and “racist. “RESIFICATION OF FACTS: Inconclusive: Trump “shut down our country” was not as strict as he claims, and although Biden criticized him, he did not use the terms the president accused him of using. DETAILS: Trump’s “ban” on visitors from China was not a general ban, but allowed the entry of The Chinese territories of Hong Kong and Macau: largely in accordance with the restrictions that other countries around the world were implementing at the time, restrictions came into effect on February 2, after the virus was already widespread in China , according to the Associated Press.

After Trump’s restrictions, the New York Times reported that 40,000 Americans and other legal travelers had made the trip from China to the United States. AP reported that more than 8,000 Chinese and foreign citizens also entered the country after restrictions were imposed. instead. .

While scientists and experts have praised travel restrictions, there is little evidence to claim that he stored the huge number of lives Trump has continually said.

Regarding Trump’s statement on Biden, an appearance in the Iowa crusade the same day travel restrictions were announced, Biden criticized the Trump administration’s handling of the pandemic.

“Now is not the time for Donald Trump’s record hysteria and xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia and alarmism, to lead the way instead of science,” Biden said. He did not directly link it to the travel restrictions recently announced through the president, and the crusade says he was not referring directly to the travel ban on China. Biden has also continually accused the president of xenophobia on Twitter.

Finally, in April 2020, the Biden Crusade supported the ban. “Science supported this ban, and so did the deputy director of the Kate Bedingfield. BY Crusade: Adam Aigner-Treworgy

TRUMP STATEMENT: “We knew nothing about the disease. We have now discovered that other older people with center disorders and diabetes and other disorders are very, very vulnerable. We’ve learned a lot. We’ve learned a lot. “

CLAIM: Young people are not “vulnerable” to COVID. FACT CHECK: Misleading the Details: While knowledge shows that young people are less likely to get COVID-19 than adults, it is not true that young people have not been affected. It is also incorrect to say that young people are incapable of spreading the virus. Data from the American Academy of Pediatrics indicates that, as of September 24, youth accounted for just 10. 5% of all cases in states that reported cases by age. The AAP also states that “available knowledge indicates that COVID-19-related hospitalizations and deaths are rare in youth” and that “it appears that serious illness from COVID-19 is rare in youth. ” However, the AAP also reports that more than 624,000 youth have tested positive for COVID-19 since the start of the pandemic. Recent knowledge from the Centers for Disease Control shows that children under the age of 10 are capable of transmitting COVID, but specifies that adolescents were twice as likely to contract the virus as children of primary school age. Although Trump claims that young people are largely unaffected by COVID-19, he told reporter Bob Woodward in March that “many young people” were affected by the pandemic. However, it is not clear which age organization Trump was referring to.

Simply put: THE CDC and top experts recognize that the effect of COVID on young people is not yet clear and that initial knowledge shows low rates of infection, but to say that young people “are not” vulnerable to the disease is incorrect.

PAR: Kristin Brown

Kathryn Farrell contributed to this report.

Leave a Comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *